A lot of people have a seriously personal and emotional investment in this president. I don’t expect the realization of his incompetence to come easy for them. The fact that it is coming this early and from so many corners speaks loudly to his capabilities.
And sorry to have deserted the sight for the last little bit. I’ve had an interesting month and I’m still trying to catch up with myself.
With liberals, the Cause is All.
His arrogance and incompetence is causing people to turn away from the One True (Liberal) Way, so in the same way that the problem must always be the delivery and cannot be that the people are rejecting the message, so no one is ever more important than the Cause.
President Obama is starting to feel what it is like to be thrown under the bus. A slower process for his position, perhaps, but he will be sacrificed so they don’t have to admit liberal ideology doesn’t work.
Yes, some of his criticism has been racist. When it walks like a duck, quacks like duck, then it must be… But we have had that disagreement, before as to what you consider racist.
I guess you would want your picture photoshopped to look ugly.
I thought the right had thought as much as the left, when it came to expectations, when they pointed out how quickly that he didn’t walk on water. Well, who da thunk it?
For black people who had fought for civil rights and lived in an era of firsts, of course there was that tingle on Inauguration Day, but we knew better than to exhale.
His Inauguration was a historical event, worthy of a song. You know I remember singing Davy Crockett when it was a hit with kids. Living in Tennessee and all. Actually I was a VOL for a while.
I don’t think that ugly photoshops are necessarily indicative of racism--if so, then explain the photoshops of W. I don’t deny that there is racism or that some people are opposed to him for purely racial reasons; but that doesn’t mean that most (or even many) of President Obama’s opponents are racist. The situation that Nathan referenced in particular is ugly, though: changing a person’s words and then using what they didn’t say to make a claim of racism.
It diminishes the word to use it so casually.
And, yes, there was a little excitement for me on inauguration day, too. While I still think we hired the wrong guy for the office, there is no doubt that I hope that kids throughout America--regardless of race or sex (and maybe someday, religious preference--although that seems to be a little longer in coming)--looked on and realized that they could reach even the highest office of the nation. It’s a hopeful message and an affirmation of things I’ve always believed deep in my soul about my country.
That said, I really do wish it had been someone more worthy of the office--but I suspect that we would disagree on precisely who that would be. The idea of Justice Clarence Thomas in the White House is one that I fully support, but I believe that we’ve had a disagreement over his qualifications before.
As for singing songs, some of what I’ve seen on YouTube seems a little creepy to me. I don’t recall singing odes to Reagan when I was in school (and, trust me, I would remember that). When you sang about Davy Crockett, you were singing about a mythical, long dead, and Disney-fied version of the man that never really existed. President Obama, on the other hand, is still very much alive, very much real, and far removed from proving himself worthy of that kind of myth-making.
You see there are many people like me who don’t keep up with the so called adulation. Out of three hundred million people, you think that what you find on youtube or who you read in the press is significant? I could find the same amount of adoration for Ronald Reagan, which to myself would seem a little weird, because I’ve never been a fan of anyone. It takes a lot to impress me and I never expect godliness from any human.
Creepy worship? In this day where the fan rules. With all the TV show devoted to celebrities, the paparazzi, that breathless screaming for that rock star; this isn’t creepy worship? It’s the culture!
David,
I think you would have been disappointed if Clarence Thomas would have been President. It doesn’t have to do with ideology all the time. Personally i don’t think he would survive the primaries, the pressure would push him to much.
It seems like you are trying to conflate “not everyone worshiped Obama” into “President Obama didn’t get very much love from the Left.”
But when we provide concrete examples of clear hero-worship from both influential individuals and broad groups on the left side, you flat-out dismiss the evidence as apparently not rising to your standard of proof. Saying that because someone in a different context did something superficially similar at some unrelated point in the past does nothing to refute that Left loved Obama so much that they covered for his shortcomings extensively over the past 3+ years.
I wouldn’t bother continuing this discussion, because you are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine, but your claim we need to get out more kind of compels me to point out your arguments haven’t held water at all.
No I don’t think you do seek a lot of opinion different than yours. I also don’t think those samples are necessarily representative of the general population.
Also what you might call love I might call something else. I don’t think you have experienced being the first Negro( or whatever, its not really a racial connotation), which were promoted by certain folks and the expectation that you would be their Negro. That’s not love.
I was trying to think of another word instead of Negro, since that incites folk. Something analogous, perhaps Boy Wonder, we have all seen this in some job.
Actually, as a free people, the last thing we need is a leader. And that’s one of the problems I see with our national psyche. Too many people want to be led.
The president is an executive, whose job is is to run the executive branch. That’s a public service position.
Maybe if we’d all start talking more about our servants on Capitol Hill, instead of “leaders”, we’d get our thinking straightened out.
VRB, in early 2009, I got more than one phone call from people who were clearly Obama voters ... each of which was astonished that they were still expected to pay their mortgage even after Obama had been elected.
Descriptions of Obama as a “light bringer” by adulatory fans were in common currency. These things were not invented by his critics.
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Ouch indeed! I thought everyone was supposed to love us and the oceans would recede blah blah blah
Yeah, it really doesn’t seem to be working out like that, does it?
I just got my quota of Federal Unicorn dust and Fairy Farts in the mail. Don’t know what your problem is, hater.
I was promised a magic carpet in every garage and a unicorn in every pot.
Unicorn dust just isn’t enough anymore.
Jon Stewart seems to be missing the love too.
I was wondering how long it would take the all the thralls to realize just how tedious a blowhard he really is.
Also, glad you’re still alive ZB.
A lot of people have a seriously personal and emotional investment in this president. I don’t expect the realization of his incompetence to come easy for them. The fact that it is coming this early and from so many corners speaks loudly to his capabilities.
And sorry to have deserted the sight for the last little bit. I’ve had an interesting month and I’m still trying to catch up with myself.
The fact that it is coming this early and from so many corners speaks loudly to his capabilities.
So, we’ve finally found something he’s actually good at?
In-freakin’-deed.
With liberals, the Cause is All.
His arrogance and incompetence is causing people to turn away from the One True (Liberal) Way, so in the same way that the problem must always be the delivery and cannot be that the people are rejecting the message, so no one is ever more important than the Cause.
President Obama is starting to feel what it is like to be thrown under the bus. A slower process for his position, perhaps, but he will be sacrificed so they don’t have to admit liberal ideology doesn’t work.
I have not seen all that love (from the left) he’s supposed to have gotten. Ya’ll don’t get out as much as you think.
VRB,
Chris Matthews said he got a tingle up his leg when he heard Barack Obama speak.
Another liberal news reporter said that President Obama was “like a God.”
Teachers composed songs (some might say: hymns) with Obama as the subject, and had children sing these songs praising Obama.
Liberal after Liberal after Liberal has characterized any criticism of Obama as racism.
Maureen O’Dowd defending Obama from a Republican who shouted “You Lie” during one of Obama’s speeches by adding in the word “boy” and then denouncing the politician as racist.
And surely you haven’t forgotten all the dramatic photos taken of Obama with a Halo have you? http://www.ask.com/pictures?qsrc=167&o=0&l=dir&q=barack+obama+halo
http://www.google.com/images?q=barack+obama+halo&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&safe=on&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
Please, remove the beam from your own eye before criticizing others for the speck in theirs.
Nathan,
I guess those are all that voted for him.
Yes, some of his criticism has been racist. When it walks like a duck, quacks like duck, then it must be… But we have had that disagreement, before as to what you consider racist.
I guess you would want your picture photoshopped to look ugly.
I thought the right had thought as much as the left, when it came to expectations, when they pointed out how quickly that he didn’t walk on water. Well, who da thunk it?
For black people who had fought for civil rights and lived in an era of firsts, of course there was that tingle on Inauguration Day, but we knew better than to exhale.
His Inauguration was a historical event, worthy of a song. You know I remember singing Davy Crockett when it was a hit with kids. Living in Tennessee and all. Actually I was a VOL for a while.
I don’t think that ugly photoshops are necessarily indicative of racism--if so, then explain the photoshops of W. I don’t deny that there is racism or that some people are opposed to him for purely racial reasons; but that doesn’t mean that most (or even many) of President Obama’s opponents are racist. The situation that Nathan referenced in particular is ugly, though: changing a person’s words and then using what they didn’t say to make a claim of racism.
It diminishes the word to use it so casually.
And, yes, there was a little excitement for me on inauguration day, too. While I still think we hired the wrong guy for the office, there is no doubt that I hope that kids throughout America--regardless of race or sex (and maybe someday, religious preference--although that seems to be a little longer in coming)--looked on and realized that they could reach even the highest office of the nation. It’s a hopeful message and an affirmation of things I’ve always believed deep in my soul about my country.
That said, I really do wish it had been someone more worthy of the office--but I suspect that we would disagree on precisely who that would be. The idea of Justice Clarence Thomas in the White House is one that I fully support, but I believe that we’ve had a disagreement over his qualifications before.
As for singing songs, some of what I’ve seen on YouTube seems a little creepy to me. I don’t recall singing odes to Reagan when I was in school (and, trust me, I would remember that). When you sang about Davy Crockett, you were singing about a mythical, long dead, and Disney-fied version of the man that never really existed. President Obama, on the other hand, is still very much alive, very much real, and far removed from proving himself worthy of that kind of myth-making.
Davy Crockett, VRB, that’s the best you can come up with to explain away the creepy worship singing we’ve seen?
You knew that was going to be ridiculed when you wrote that didn’t you?
You see there are many people like me who don’t keep up with the so called adulation. Out of three hundred million people, you think that what you find on youtube or who you read in the press is significant? I could find the same amount of adoration for Ronald Reagan, which to myself would seem a little weird, because I’ve never been a fan of anyone. It takes a lot to impress me and I never expect godliness from any human.
Creepy worship? In this day where the fan rules. With all the TV show devoted to celebrities, the paparazzi, that breathless screaming for that rock star; this isn’t creepy worship? It’s the culture!
David,
I think you would have been disappointed if Clarence Thomas would have been President. It doesn’t have to do with ideology all the time. Personally i don’t think he would survive the primaries, the pressure would push him to much.
VRB,
I guess I don’t get your point.
It seems like you are trying to conflate “not everyone worshiped Obama” into “President Obama didn’t get very much love from the Left.”
But when we provide concrete examples of clear hero-worship from both influential individuals and broad groups on the left side, you flat-out dismiss the evidence as apparently not rising to your standard of proof. Saying that because someone in a different context did something superficially similar at some unrelated point in the past does nothing to refute that Left loved Obama so much that they covered for his shortcomings extensively over the past 3+ years.
I wouldn’t bother continuing this discussion, because you are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine, but your claim we need to get out more kind of compels me to point out your arguments haven’t held water at all.
No I don’t think you do seek a lot of opinion different than yours. I also don’t think those samples are necessarily representative of the general population.
Also what you might call love I might call something else. I don’t think you have experienced being the first Negro( or whatever, its not really a racial connotation), which were promoted by certain folks and the expectation that you would be their Negro. That’s not love.
I was trying to think of another word instead of Negro, since that incites folk. Something analogous, perhaps Boy Wonder, we have all seen this in some job.
Actually, as a free people, the last thing we need is a leader. And that’s one of the problems I see with our national psyche. Too many people want to be led.
The president is an executive, whose job is is to run the executive branch. That’s a public service position.
Maybe if we’d all start talking more about our servants on Capitol Hill, instead of “leaders”, we’d get our thinking straightened out.
VRB, in early 2009, I got more than one phone call from people who were clearly Obama voters ... each of which was astonished that they were still expected to pay their mortgage even after Obama had been elected.
Descriptions of Obama as a “light bringer” by adulatory fans were in common currency. These things were not invented by his critics.