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resurrectionsongNovember 19, 2004Three PossibilitiesThis email from my hosting company has me feeling a little irritable. Not at them--I've been pretty happy with my hosting company. I'm upset at the problem that comment spam, even the stuff that doesn't end up getting through the filters, is continuing to cause me.
For a little bit of context, realize that I am also setting up two business sites that will be going live over the next few weeks. They will be running from the same shared space on the server and both of them are important to my future. The last few months have revolved around these two opportunities, and I'm hoping that the extra work ends up paying off. I don't have the energy to continue dealing with this problem. I don't have the time to migrate to a new platform, and it pisses me off that the move would cause all of the search engine and blog links into the site to break. I feel a little bit defeated. I've managed to handle one of the problems--the spam that actually ends up posting to the site--but the site is still under, apparently, considerable attack. I changed the name of the comments script, but they found the new one. I don't want to have to go through changing that through the whole site every few weeks. I'm not sure what kind of moderation to put in place that would actually solve the problem, either. I see three avenues of opportunity, but I don't really like any of them.
I don't want to kill off the comments all together--I enjoy the feedback too much. It wouldn't be even close to the same experience for me without knowing what you think, even (or perhaps mostly) when it's just to disagree. I don't want to kill the blog, but that is the direction I'm leaning right now while I decide whether I want to deal with making even more changes to the site so that I can deal with moderating the comments. I'm frustrated and at a loss. Over the weekend I'll be making a choice and the blog may be a casualty of comment spam and my own need to have the time to focus on other projects. If I didn't have any other obligations, it might not be that big of a deal; I do have those other obligations, though, and they aren't going away any time in the near future. Posted by zombyboy at November 19, 2004 10:17 AMComments
I will give you my comments offline. Posted by: Jerry at November 19, 2004 10:25 AMHow about registering commenters? The only thing I can suggest is switching the type of Blog you use. Blogs like B2evolution, Expression Engine or PMachine have a feature where only registered users can comment. The one I'm using now, Serendipity has a built in feature where commenters have to enter a string of characters to leave thier comment like when you sign up for Yahoo Mail. Just some suggestions. I don't suggest Wordpress just yet. They still have some bugs to work out of their spam busting techniques. Posted by: Trench at November 19, 2004 11:13 AMSimply require commenters preview their comments before posting. That will limit auto spamming bots. Posted by: Ben at November 19, 2004 11:56 AMYou can't kill the blog. Especially not now that you have T-shirts!!! Everyone buy a T-shirt and make this worth Zombyboy's time. Posted by: Shawn Macomber at November 19, 2004 12:19 PMPixy fixed that problem on Munu by jes' changin' the name of comments.cgi to somethin' else. Posted by: Tig at November 19, 2004 12:31 PMPS. Makin' me register in order to comment means I will not be commentin'. I know of a lot of other people who feel exactly the same way. Posted by: Tig at November 19, 2004 12:33 PMChanging the comments file does dramatically reduce the volume of spam comments that find their way to the blog, but if the spambot tries to find the old file anyway, it's still a request that the server has to handle (even if it is just to say "not found - now away with you!"). That seems to be the problem here (from what I've read). I would imagine that the only long-term solution is to put a no-indexing file in the public HTML directory, so that Google, et al won't index the site anymore, and hope that eventually the old references in the search engines are replaced by something else. I fear comment spam is a losing battle until there's an appreciable cost for spamming (e.g. Microsoft's idea of requiring the originating PC to solve a small puzzle, eating up CPU time). Posted by: andy at November 19, 2004 12:40 PMI changed the name of that script a couple of weeks ago. When one of the bots finds it again, they spread the news. I still am not getting as much spam that makes it past blacklist as I was before I made the change; the problem is that whether it gets past blacklist or not, the bots that are spamming are placing a heavy load on the server by repeatedly calling that script. It's sort of like a DOS attack in the sense that it uses the natural function of the server (in this case running a common scripts) in a way that is detrimental to the server. In the case of a DOS attack, the whole point is to bring the server to its knees. In this case, the potential for crippling the server (and all the sites hosted on it) is there, it just isn't intentional. Verve would suspend my account if it gets close to that point, and I wouldn't much blame them for doing so. Posted by: zombyboy at November 19, 2004 12:41 PMSo your blacklist is working but is taking too many CPU cycles to reject the comments? If I were you I'd move the blog to a different hosting company, or put the business ventures somewhere else. That way at least your blog wouldn't kill something that might make money. There's also evidently a plugin out there to make commenters punch in a code based on a jpg. Not sure if that would help, the spammers would still eat cycles failing the code check, but they might give up after a while. Posted by: Matt Moore at November 19, 2004 01:11 PMHere's a thought, Z. Instead of asking us what we want you to do, how about if we ask you what you want to do. What would make you the most happy? Posted by: Jerry at November 19, 2004 01:35 PMTig- I don't think it works because I got hit by about 50 just yesterday. The only way I can seem to keep them away is to ban the IP each time. Posted by: Rae at November 23, 2004 07:46 AM |
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