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December 14, 2003

Disgusting

I'm reading the comments on the Dean Blog for America, and I'm disturbed (disgusted) by some of the comments. The far left really is a petty little place, isn't it?


This is great news- with Saddam gone, our Islamic brothers can send the beasts of the Bu$h Nazi war machine to their graves without the taint of Saddam's rule.

Posted by Muslims4Dean at December 14, 2003 12:24 PM


If I truly believed that this was the voice of Islam, I would despair. Luckily, this isn't too far off the voice of far-left of America.

Does anyone else find it suspicious that Hussein is alive? What do you want to bet that he swaps the location of something or other that can be classified as WMD's for his miserable life? Which were/will be put there by our very own Easter rabbits, the CIA.

Posted by L.I. Soundview in CT at December 14, 2003 12:26 PM


Ah, yes, the voice of rational lefty conspiracy theorists. A week ago it was people castigating the administration for not having killed or captured Hussein, and now those voices are wondering at the coincidence of it all. What fun.

Muslims4Bush- I don't think we can put it that way. We don't want Americans to die. But if Bush will not bring our boys home- then they're going to have to die so that Howard Dean can win.

Posted by Johnny Smith at December 14, 2003 12:27 PM


Ah, yes, we wouldn't want American soldiers to put themselves in harm's way to remove dictators, tyrants, and terrorists from the world. Of course, if it's in sacrifice for Dean's presidency, that's just fine. Asshole.

Ha- the Iraqi resistance just attacked the Palestine Hotel. Take that Bu$h!

Let's see how many coporate media a$$holes bought it.

Posted by iraqintifada at December 14, 2003 12:32 PM


Ah, that's nice, isn't it?

A question for the "war mongers" (pre and post-facto apologists):

A unilateral preemptive strike differs from naked, unprovoked, violent war-criminality, how, exactly?

Posted by pat_k at December 14, 2003 12:48 PM


Unilateral? God, won't that little lie die? Pre-emptive? In what way is it pre-emptive to take over a decade to enforce UN mandates, to force a regime to live up to it's obligations and agreements, and to tear down a tyrant who willingly used chemical weapons in an effort to destroy an ethnic group within his country's borders?

While everyone cheers at the capture of the tryrant AP reports that between March 20 and April 20 3240 Iraqi deaths have been reported -- and they noted that is a very low estimate.
Far more than the trade center. These deaths were as innocent as our deaths. Where is the outrage or -- are we just worth more -

Posted by judy in colorado at December 14, 2003 12:54 PM


Well, Judy, those estimates are just that: estimates. Those estimates also do not properly break-out the cause of death. Further, where was your outrage about the 300,000 estimated to have died in mass graves in Iraq? And the cause of death, and responsibility, in those deaths is usually pretty easy to spot. The bullet hole in the back of the head is a lovely indicator.

I think we should begin a letter writing campaign to either the other campaigns, or the DNC promising to NOT support a Democratic Nominee who is aligned with Digusting attack ads like the one we saw against Dean... The Republicans can do their own dirty work, let's not make it easy on them.

Only a united Democratic Party can take our country back.

Posted by Kevin at December 14, 2003 01:00 PM


Ah, yes, and there's the thing. Only the Democratic Party can take "our country back." Take it back from an economy that, in 2004, will likely be the strongest economy in two decades? Or maybe take the country back from tax cuts that have encouraged investment and growth? Or maybe take the country back from the leader that was elected? Or maybe take the country back from a president who, despite his failings, has shown vision and leadership in a war on terror that the Democrat candidates simply don't seem to grasp?

(And, while we're talking about the campaign for a moment, let me ask a question that's been bothering me. The Dems love to note--loudly and at length--that Bush didn't win the majority of the popular vote. Regardless of the constitution or the manner in which our presidential elections have always been conducted, the Dems hold this up as some sort of proof that Bush wasn't elected, he was "selected." Where is their outrage at the filibusters? The filibuster is undoubtedly one of the traditions of our system that is the least democratic--and it's being used to deny popular votes on issues that the Democrats know that they can lose. Where is the outrage over that issue?)

I understand the Dean supporters worry and fear on this--their candidate is the only serious Democrat presidential candidate who has much to fear over a successful presence and rebuilding effort in Iraq. Some of the talk--all those came from one thread and I only actually made it halfway through that thread--was simply over the top. In fairness, there were also intelligent and reasonable comments--and at least one goofy right-leaning comment that makes my side of the argument look a bit foolish.

This is a great day for Iraq and for the rest of the world. It is not an end, but is a sign of further progress in a war that was promised to be long and difficult. The question is whether you believe the cost of the effort to be worth what we are trying to build. The more progress that is made, the harder it is to support any other conclusion than, yes, it will be worth the cost.

Read Dean's blog and the comments for yourself.

Update: See more, similar quotes over at Evangelical Outpost. In all honesty, both of them made me laugh just a bit.

Posted by zombyboy at December 14, 2003 01:10 PM | TrackBack
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Um, ZB? You missed a blockquote close tag, methinks...

Posted by: nathan at December 14, 2003 04:15 PM

Dude! You are on fire! Go Zomby, go Zomby, go-go-go Zomby!

Posted by: Patrick at December 14, 2003 08:37 PM

"I'm reading the comments on the Dean Blog for America, and I'm disturbed (disgusted) by some of the comments. The far left really is a petty little place, isn't it?"

Yes, it is - and the comments you've posted here are indicative of a pattern that stretches back for some time:

"Let's Hope Something Goes Wrong - and Soon!"


Posted by: The Tapir at December 15, 2003 05:17 AM

There's no position so absurd that you can't find someone on the internet supporting it. The 99.44% of Dean supporters and other left-of-centers who are actually relatively rational are quietly happy that Saddam has been captured, and are watching Iraq to see what happens next. How many Republican internet nutbars do you think I could dig up for strawman duty if I wanted to?

Posted by: Skinny at December 15, 2003 10:58 AM

Skinny, did you actually manage to read what I wrote? I noted that there were intelligent responses in the comments and at least one foolish right-leaning comment.

That doesn't make it a straw man, though--these are Dean supporters and make up a good part of his base. These are their words, not mine, and that certainly makes them fair game for response. If I had simply made up the comments out of thin air, or taken them from a fringe source, you may have a point.

Having spent time around Dean supporters, I don't agree that 99.44% of them are all rational people. Even relatively. They've allowed their irrational hatred of Bush to blind themselves to anything good that the administration does or to any rational analysis of Bush administration policies.

These people spoke for themselves and did it in a very public forum.

If you want to take on the loony right (and I've done so here), feel free. That's not creating a straw man, that's a response to invective.

Posted by: zombyboy at December 15, 2003 11:17 AM

Is this like a guestbook?

Posted by: Jimmy at November 3, 2004 03:38 AM

Jimmy, this isn't a guestbook, it's a blog. Hit the "main" link that's near the very top of the page and that will take you to the latest news.

Posted by: zombyboy at November 3, 2004 07:13 AM
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