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November 25, 2003

Just Nuts

A while back, I was invited to join a Yahoo group. The invitation came out of the blue; frankly, I still don't know why I was invited or what about me seemed interesting to whoever sent the invitation.

Curiosity is one of my defining traits. Possibly to the point of vice. I don't like not knowing things--and that's one of the little quirks that fuels my huge magazine and book habit. In a normal month, aside from my various subscriptions, I will buy twenty or twenty-five magazines, and a handful of books.

The topics include politics (both left, right, and libertarian), computers, art, cars, graphic design, architecture, writing, travel, computer games, and technology. In fact, though, I'll read anything. Years ago, I stayed at a friend's house in Boulder after a night of partying. I was up before the rest of the household and went to their kitchen to try to find something to read. I couldn't find a single damned newspaper or book, and ended up reading the backs of all of the cereal boxes.

I say this by way of explanation--a long, tedious explanation, to be sure. When someone sends me an invitation to join a group that discusses politics, I join. No questions asked.

What I didn't realize was that the list is home to very vocal conspiracy theory advocates and racists. Not wing-nuts, then. Just nuts.

I haven't yet removed myself from the list, as I find it oddly entertaining, but am edging closer to doing so. It amazes me just how people can believe these wild theories, can hate Jews so ardently, and can delude themselves into imagining that they actually matter. Aside from their singular use as cartoonish villains in action movies and the fact that some of their writing makes me giggle, it's hard to imagine anyone taking them seriously.

In the spirit of the holidays, and of sharing, I thought that I would gift you all with some selected entries from the mailing list.

Enjoy

First, one of the posters, Henry, closes each of his messages to the group with this fun little tidbit of information:

LET'S STOP KIDDING OURSELVES! 9-11 was an Israeli-backed spanking on our collective American bottom! A Boeing 757 DIDN'T pierce through six walls of the Pentagon (impossible + no aircraft debris), a late model cruise missile did the job; the Twin Towers DIDN'T collapse due to heat (impossible), demolition charges did the job; there were NO Arab hijackers (the jets were guided electronically); and the Zionists/Judeo-Christians now in control of the United States are traitors to the U.S. Constitution... as well as being mass murderers.This has been a Zionist WAG THE DOG operation from the start, deadly serious for our elected leaders WHO KNOW WHO'S GUILTY, and an Arabian Nights charade for Mom and Pop in Littletown, U.S.A.! It's an info war! Forward this to the world!

Okay, world, consider it forwarded.

This lengthy excerpt, from one "neo mulder", is put forth as something resembling serious thought.

Alex Jones recently had a guest who believes we are being set up as the evil modern-day Nazi empire that will be defeated by the rest of the world.

A nuclear attack will be launched against us by Russia and China while our government elites rush to the bomb shelters we taxpayers built for them. Finpol elites like the Rockefellers have reportedly already prepared bunkers for themselves in Australia. The devastation will be so severe in the U. S. our elites will express surprise and shock and launch no nuclear counter-attack. Instead, all the black-op space weapons we've been developing will be turned over to the communist-Trotskyite UN to control the rest of the world. Getting gas for our bloated SUVs will be the least of our problems here. And the rest of the world will say we deserved it.

Note to the conspiracy theorists: show me a competent government organization, and I might start buying into this stuff. I mean, our government can't even manage to make a profit when they own a virtual monopoly (think the US Postal Service well before there were other options--or even now for normal mail service). If they can't manage that, it's pretty hard to comprehend a super-secret organization that has managed to hoodwink the entire world and guides the events that unravel from some hidden underground lair.

Or does it just bring you great pleasure to believe such things?

And here's just a touch more Henry--guaranteed to anger anyone who doesn't sympathize with the KKK or the Aryan Nations.

As for all the rest about the supposed failings of the White race, I wonder why it is, if the browns and blacks are so superior, that they so ardently seek to enter into White societies... instead of basking instead in the glories of their own obviously superior cultures***? Now why is that, Hazel? And why is it that a decent, quiet, charming, productive White countryside will, with the influx of browns and blacks, quickly become a cesspool of crime, drug dealing, prostitution, and mugging? I mean, it happens every time, Hazel. Now why is that? We stupid Whites would like the answer to these questions from these superior black people... Henri the Celt. [zb--The various spellings of his name are confusing; I'm simplifying by using the name associated with his email.]

Wow. I mean, I've always been white (lily freakin' white, pale, blue eyed and just this side of blond haired, in fact), but I hadn't realized just how perfect whites were. Until those darned "browns and blacks" showed up.

I mean, the world must have been a veritable Garden of Eden when everything was nicely segregated. Imagine, no drugs, no prostitution, no mugging--all that was imported with those darned coloreds.

What world does Henry live in? It sure as hell bears no resemblance to the world the rest of us inhabit. Note to racists: crime is not a racial characteristic. In fact, damnit, don't deny us white folk some of the greatest criminals ever known--and we've had some damned good rapists and drug users, too. As such things go.

Ahem.

Of course, the woman that he was responding to, Hazel, is no picture of intellectual impressiveness.

If you need a scape-goat for the drug problem, look no further than the CIA, who are targeting black ghettos with this filth. Blacks may deal in crack, because they have precious little options, but they are also the biggest victims of this debilitating, highly addictive chemical.

It has killed people, broken up families, destroyed communities and caused an escalation in crime... all in line with the Illuminati agenda.

Hazel does work that conspiracy theory line well, though, doesn't she?

Illuminati agenda? Hell, it was a hilarious game by Steve Jackson Games, but that's as close to real as it ever got. CIA forcing poor blacks to deal drugs? And, of course, the Illuminati has conspired to keep blacks in poor neighborhoods and ensured that there aren't any options other than dealing drugs.

Henry's Illuminati doesn't sound much like Hazel's. In fact, if Hazel is right, I imagine Henry will be signing up soon for the "Keep the Negros Down League."

Henry's racist like that.

Oh, hell, that's probably enough of poking fun at these folks. I'll be removing myself from the list in the next couple of days. For purposes of verification, I'll be keeping the archive email that this was all pulled from. I'll send it to whomever requests it--but be careful, the totality of it is far more disturbing that you can possibly imagine.

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Dick Gregory's Comments On Michael Jackson

By Bakari Akil II

Dick Gregory, activist, health guru, ex-comedian as well as advisor to many
influential people is a man who has been a mainstay in American culture for
decades. As a friend of Michael Jackson for many years he recently offered
insight to the current situation involving Mr. Jackson and provided a
perspective that has not been evident in many media outlets.

On a radio show entitled, Make it Plain, hosted by WOL's Mark Thompson in
Washington, D.C., Dick Gregory stated in response to the mad media frenzy
and tilt toward guilt coverage, that those who believe in Michael Jackson's
guilt or innocence should first ask for truth to be exposed. Whether it is
damaging for Michael Jackson or not, he insisted that truth is the most
important aspect of this issue.

However, Mr. Gregory does not believe that Mr. Jackson is guilty of the
charges and rased many questions concerning the events leading up to the
actions of law enforcement and consequent media coverage.

He asked why was it necessary for 40 police officers and 20 FBI agents to
raid Michael Jackson's property? More specifically, why were FBI agents
present, especially since the allegations against Mr. Jackson are not a
federal offense? He also questioned the legitimacy of the claim of law
enforcement that they did not know of Mr. Jackson's whereabouts and the
timing of the raid.

According to Mr. Gregory, there is a monetary element to this entire
situation. He states that Michael Jackson purchased the Beatles catalog for
nearly $48 million and it is now worth $1.5 billion. He also owns the rights
to the Elvis catalog and found out after his purchase of the Beatles
collection that these rights also included ownership of Little Richard's
catalog of which, Michael Jackson promptly called Mr. Richard and returned
it to him.

His suspici! ons aris e from the fact that Michael Jackson has taken out loans
and his lenders wanted collateral, which was none other than his Beatles
catalog. Mr. Gregory stated that Michael Jackson did not mind offering that
up as collateral because every time he would come out with a record he would
make around $500 million from his efforts. For those who doubt those claims,
he explained that there is a mischaracterization that occurs when people
think about what is success for Michael Jackson. Although he may not achieve
the outrageous sales of his more youthful days a majority of successful
artists sales would pale by comparison.

Mr. Gregory found it odd that every time Michael Jackson is about to come
out with an album or moneymaking venture he is hit with a scandal and that
this situation is no different. He also admonished the audience not to
forget that Michael Jackson embarrassed SONY and music mogul Tommy Mottola
when he claimed that they were racist and that they took advanage of and
mistreated Black artists.

Not holding anything back, Mr. Gregory stated that Rev. Al Sharpton, who
came to the defense of Michael Jackson during this time was soon overwhelmed
by media coverage of a video tape which showed individuals attempting to
frame him in a drug deal. He went even further stating that this type of
behavior could be traced to Bill Cosby and the suspicious murder of his son
Ennis, who was gunned down while changing the tire of his Mercedes on a
California highway. He claims that this happened after Mr. Cosby hinted that
he wanted to purchase NBC when it was up for sale.

Dick Gregory also alleged that when they showed Michael Jackson in
handcuffs, it was symbolic and when they handcuffed him, they handcuffed us
all (Black communities). He stated that they allowed Mr. Jackson to board
his private plane in Las Vegas, fly back to California and then handcuffed
him and immediately took them off when inside the police station.! Accordi ng
to Mr. Gregory, law enforcement had not judged him an extreme flight risk if
they let him fly in and obviously not a danger if they immediately uncuffed
him once inside, so why the posturing?

Mr. Gregory further intensified his discourse by reiterating that the value
of Michael Jackson's Beatles catalog cannot be underestimated and asserted
that Mr. Jackson could easily be killed, have it consequently ruled a
suicide and thus his collection will be forfeited in lieu of his debt.

He further commented that people such as Liz Taylor, whom he knows Michael
Jackson would rush to their aid in times of need, have not come to his
defense or spoke out on his behalf. He also talked about how many people
take "Michael" for a joke, yet he is very intelligent and that he knows what
is going on.

Yet for all his concerns, Dick Gregory stated that Michael Jackson will
"come out clean" in this dilemma and he called for people to say a daily
prayer for the "truth tocome out" about this situation concerning Mr.
Jackson at 12:00 P.M., no matter what the time zone. He believes,
ultimately, people will be shocked at what that truth is.

In the final analysis, many may balk at the comments and observations of Mr.
Gregory, believing that governmental officials, media organizations and
corporations in the music business may be beyond collusion or conspiracies
(when two or more make a conscious effort to bring about a certain reality),
which is fine. Yet, free and independent thought that Mr. Gregory exhibits
is absolutely necessary, especially in an era where fact and fiction has
taken an equal seat in mainstream media and thought.

Hopefully, people will not jump on the bandwagon of mainstream reactionary
thought and will judge this situation objectively and think about how the
constant stream of Black men being vilified as sexual and violent deviants
will affect Black communities and Black individuals in general. I will no! t
eve n address how these events also help serve as a smokescreen to other
national and international events, but if we do not become more vigilant of
our surroundings, it maybe a mistake we may all regret.

Posted by: Eternal Youth at December 15, 2003 01:24 PM

And why is it that a decent, quiet, charming, productive White countryside will, with the influx of browns and blacks, quickly become a cesspool of crime, drug dealing, prostitution, and mugging?

What white countryside? Do you mean the countryside that never belonged to whites in the first place and was colonized after the genocide of millions of black/brown indigenous, aboriginal/Native Americans? Do you mean the countryside or land whose sovereignty was stolen by the whites through murder, lies and fake treaties? The Native Americans never sold any land to anyone because 'selling' is a concept foreign to them. For the land or earth is the Mother of all things and its father the Sky. The land or Nature cannot be separated from its people. 'Selling' is a European term.

It was colonization that forced us into 'reservations' otherwise know today as 'ghettos' and created a 'caste' society' with white on top and black on the bottom. Realistically and non-propagandically speaking...Black or white is not a race. Black and white started out as a definition for social status. Now this definition has changed.

Europeans immigrated to the states to escape oppression. Only to steal another nations soveriegnty, land, resources, etc. and treat them original inhabitants as low class citizens. This is akin to breaking into someone's house, food, etc. (country/land/resources) and then stealing the house away from them, then acting like the person they stole the house from never had anything in the first place. Killing the many family members of the children of the house, separating the family, then raising the children in schools to believe that they are black, negro, native american, and that they are savage and can never be civilized when in realistically they are the descendants of victims of the greatest down-played holocaust that ever existed, mass genocide, kidnapping, abduction, murder and still the victims of oppression to this day.

Posted by: Niko at January 1, 2004 10:27 AM

Michael Jackson is a true humanitarian, an example to us all. He has devoted much time and money to a wide range of charities. He loves children and takes time out when touring secretly visting sick children. He also has special rooms at his home Neverland for sick and terminally ill children to stay over. He was listed in the 2000 edition of the Guiness Book Of World Records for breaking the world record for the "Most Charities Supported By a Pop Star". It states that Michael Jackson has supported 39 charity organizations either with monetary donations through sponsorships of their projects or by participating in their silent auction.

We have made an alphabetical list of known charities that Michael Jackson has individualy supported publically throughout his career. Michael Jackson also helped set up Heal The World Foundation, the charities this has supported have not been listed. Read our Heal The World/kids page for details of this foundation.

AIDS Project L.A.

American Cancer Society

Angel Food

Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles

BMI Foundation, Inc.

Brotherhood Crusade

Brothman Burn Center

Camp Ronald McDonald

Childhelp U.S.A.

Children's Institute International

Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund

Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation

Congressional Black Caucus (CBC)

Dakar Foundation

Dreamstreet Kids

Dreams Come True Charity

Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation

Juvenile Diabetes Foundation

Love Match

Make-A-Wish Foundation

Minority Aids Project

Motown Museum

NAACP

National Rainbow Coalition

Rotary Club of Australia

Society of Singers

Starlight Foundation
The Carter Center's Atlanta Project

The Sickle Cell Research Foundation

Transafrica

United Negro College Fund (UNCF)

United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope

Volunteers of America

Watts Summer Festival

Wish Granting

YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw

Posted by: ETERNAL YOUTH at January 9, 2004 09:01 AM

AIDS Project L.A.

American Cancer Society

Angel Food

Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles

BMI Foundation, Inc.

Brotherhood Crusade

Brothman Burn Center

Camp Ronald McDonald

Childhelp U.S.A.

Children's Institute International

Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund

Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation

Congressional Black Caucus (CBC)

Dakar Foundation

Dreamstreet Kids

Dreams Come True Charity

Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation

Juvenile Diabetes Foundation

Love Match

Make-A-Wish Foundation

Minority Aids Project

Motown Museum

NAACP

National Rainbow Coalition

Rotary Club of Australia

Society of Singers

Starlight Foundation
The Carter Center's Atlanta Project

The Sickle Cell Research Foundation

Transafrica

United Negro College Fund (UNCF)

United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope

Volunteers of America

Watts Summer Festival

Wish Granting

YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw

Posted by: ETERNAL YOUTH at January 9, 2004 09:02 AM

Posted by AntiStupid:
Patience is a virtue, DeadSun. As for refusing to testify, as I said, there was no criminal case issued because of the fruitless investigation, not because the child didn't testify. Had the investigation turned UP evidence, the court might have used the option of making the boy a Ward of the Court, requiring minors to testify w/o parental consent. Even with this, the family could STILL pursue Jacko in civil court, settle, or even win because guilt or innocence is irrelevent in civil law - do you not recall the OJ Simpson civil lawsuit (two separate legal spheres, my friend)? Secondly, at one point the media was putting a selective emphasis on the boy’s testimony. The court would not have needed a mountain of evidence though. Had they even found just 1 alleged pic of nude minors (there was said to be "hundreds"), this would have been enough to indict Jacko without the boy’s testimony at all. The issue isn’t that the evidence wasn’t "good enough," it’s that there WAS no evidence. Also, the boy’s description of Jacko’s genitals, surprisingly, completely mismatched the actual physical description. That was a shock to the media. It was barely reported and everyone else apparently missed it.

Posted by: ETERNAL YOUTH at January 21, 2004 09:25 AM